Comments on: Get the Balance Right http://www.thestoragearchitect.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/ Storage and Virtualisation Fri, 30 Jul 2010 18:12:37 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mark http://www.thestoragearchitect.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/comment-page-1/#comment-417 Mark Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:50:00 +0000 http://thestoragearchitect.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/#comment-417 Oh as for the IBM PC, IBM didn't invent that they just made it practical. That was pretty much the last mainstream big splash product IBM shipped now wasn't it? <br/><br/>And yet again IBM quickly lost control of that market. <br/><br/>For the IBM Billions spent in those R&D Ivory Towers the ROI appears to be non-existent. Oh as for the IBM PC, IBM didn't invent that they just made it practical. That was pretty much the last mainstream big splash product IBM shipped now wasn't it?

And yet again IBM quickly lost control of that market.

For the IBM Billions spent in those R&D Ivory Towers the ROI appears to be non-existent.

]]> By: Mark http://www.thestoragearchitect.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/comment-page-1/#comment-416 Mark Sat, 01 Nov 2008 15:10:00 +0000 http://thestoragearchitect.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/#comment-416 I'm not diminishing IBMs contribution Barry but IBMs storage portfolio has stagnated so badly you've been throwing hundreds of millions to people we threw out on their arses as they were holding us back. <br/><br/>Add in JR Ewing and Alf and it's an 90's reunion you have going over there. <br/><br/>IBM Storage is hardly in a position to point the crap stick at anyone since your idea of a next gen storage system uses Gig E as an interconnect (Seriously. GigE. I used to buy P-Series boxes and if I asked my rep if they considered using GigE as an interconnect he'd have choked to death) requires SVC for Async replication offers 44% useable capacity doesn't support NDU or QoS. <br/><br/>As for going outside, what exactly is wrong with that? Someone else has a good idea and proves it's viable, they get paid for it and more work is done on it when it's brought inside than was done outside. <br/><br/>It isn't like these startups appear with products fully formed. They usually have an idea and some code which we then turn from a project into a product. You can't point to a single acquisition where the number of inventions created post-acquisition wasn't orders of magnitude larger than it was pre-acquisition. <br/><br/>Also, isn't spotting a good idea before it takes off innovative? Don't you have to be smart to spot the next billion dollar business or hit product? <br/><br/>The difference between IBM and EMC is that EMC would have bought Microsoft for Windows. I’m not diminishing IBMs contribution Barry but IBMs storage portfolio has stagnated so badly you’ve been throwing hundreds of millions to people we threw out on their arses as they were holding us back.

Add in JR Ewing and Alf and it’s an 90’s reunion you have going over there.

IBM Storage is hardly in a position to point the crap stick at anyone since your idea of a next gen storage system uses Gig E as an interconnect (Seriously. GigE. I used to buy P-Series boxes and if I asked my rep if they considered using GigE as an interconnect he’d have choked to death) requires SVC for Async replication offers 44% useable capacity doesn’t support NDU or QoS.

As for going outside, what exactly is wrong with that? Someone else has a good idea and proves it’s viable, they get paid for it and more work is done on it when it’s brought inside than was done outside.

It isn’t like these startups appear with products fully formed. They usually have an idea and some code which we then turn from a project into a product. You can’t point to a single acquisition where the number of inventions created post-acquisition wasn’t orders of magnitude larger than it was pre-acquisition.

Also, isn’t spotting a good idea before it takes off innovative? Don’t you have to be smart to spot the next billion dollar business or hit product?

The difference between IBM and EMC is that EMC would have bought Microsoft for Windows.

]]> By: Mark http://www.thestoragearchitect.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/comment-page-1/#comment-415 Mark Sat, 01 Nov 2008 02:37:00 +0000 http://thestoragearchitect.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/#comment-415 And instead of me listing a bunch of stuff someone else did it for me.<br/><br/>http://www.emc.com/leadership/timeline/index.htm And instead of me listing a bunch of stuff someone else did it for me.

http://www.emc.com/leadership/timeline/index.htm

]]> By: BarryWhyte http://www.thestoragearchitect.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/comment-page-1/#comment-414 BarryWhyte Sat, 01 Nov 2008 00:14:00 +0000 http://thestoragearchitect.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/#comment-414 Mark makes some interesting points. But I hardly think "lun masking" is in the same league as "the hard disk drive" for example.... "the IBM PC"... lol<br/><br/>As for "acquisitions" - isn't that a case in point, the need to 'look outside' to find the value...<br/><br/>Next gen storage solutions... ah that would be a DMX (think hardware revamped Symm) with SATA drives and some flash, or so the EMC sales folks would like you to believe. Mark makes some interesting points. But I hardly think “lun masking” is in the same league as “the hard disk drive” for example…. “the IBM PC”… lol

As for “acquisitions” – isn’t that a case in point, the need to ‘look outside’ to find the value…

Next gen storage solutions… ah that would be a DMX (think hardware revamped Symm) with SATA drives and some flash, or so the EMC sales folks would like you to believe.

]]> By: Mark http://www.thestoragearchitect.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/comment-page-1/#comment-413 Mark Fri, 31 Oct 2008 21:44:00 +0000 http://thestoragearchitect.wordpress.com/2008/10/31/get-the-balance-right/#comment-413 -LUN Masking. <br/><br/>-Array based replication. <br/><br/>-Active Active Load Balancing for Open Systems. <br/><br/>-Consistency Groups<br/><br/>-The three year array warranty (Introduced in 1989)<br/><br/>-The Cached Disk Array.<br/><br/>Just quick thoughts on Symm and if we get into the acquisitions we'll be here for weeks. Documentum alone created the Enterprise Content Management business and well RSA is RSA.<br/><br/>Look, I know there's the Microsoft factor at work here where one company pulls in more revenue than the others (IBM and HP will jump in here with disks in servers, JBOD and tape revenues), and it's put down to luck or magic but if you can't think of any ideas EMC pioneered it's because you're not thinking hard enough.<br/><br/>You use them every day. -LUN Masking.

-Array based replication.

-Active Active Load Balancing for Open Systems.

-Consistency Groups

-The three year array warranty (Introduced in 1989)

-The Cached Disk Array.

Just quick thoughts on Symm and if we get into the acquisitions we’ll be here for weeks. Documentum alone created the Enterprise Content Management business and well RSA is RSA.

Look, I know there’s the Microsoft factor at work here where one company pulls in more revenue than the others (IBM and HP will jump in here with disks in servers, JBOD and tape revenues), and it’s put down to luck or magic but if you can’t think of any ideas EMC pioneered it’s because you’re not thinking hard enough.

You use them every day.

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